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When You Die… (A Fault in the Creation?)

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And if you die, and all that happens is nothingness, how would you feel? My question is pointless because since it’s nothingness, you cannot feel anything. Your body lays in the wait; for a moment you’re still fresh, then you bloat, and thereafter metamorphose into active then advanced decay. How unfair, all you lived for was to end up becoming a bag of bones, six feet under the ground, if care is not taken, your graveside is shown no respect too as it becomes a stop, sit and gist hub for tired buttocks and wagging lips in the neighborhood. How unfair… let’s not even suffer further trauma by telling about those bodies whose fate lies at the mercy of pivotal and sometimes pointless scientific experiments. God forbid I end up a cadaver!

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Have you ever wondered what happens when you die? Well, I have many times, sometimes I think of it as a long sleep whereby I’m aware and struggle to wake like a comatose but I can’t and that becomes my eternal punishment. I sometimes see myself wandering in an open green field, waiting for a sunbeam in the skies, and then the voice of the creator chips in to tender a list of my sins and decides if I belong to heaven or hell (movies made this possible for my memory to create)

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My Personal Bias for Heaven and Hell

By birth and an average sense of thought, I like to believe that I’m a Christain but for as long as I’ve been familiar with the words heaven and hell, I’m unashamed to say despite all that I’ve read in the religious books, I still find the concept of hell absurd. They say the good guys who believe in Christ will make heaven but the good ones who do not know Christ will go to hell, likewise the bad ones. Hmmmmmm what if I’ve been good all my life but the circumstances surrounding my birth didn’t welcome me to christ? I mean if a person is born of atheist parents whereby they grow up not knowing anything about the church, yet very good at heart, does that mean they’ll make hell?

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The world is too hard already, why do some of us have to suffer an afterlife of torment? Weeping? Wailing? Gnashing of teeth? Darkness? Burning? Everlasting punishment? And to say the peak, it’ll be beyond anything humanly imaginable. Why? I didn’t ask to be birthed but here I am, trying my best to make heaven. There are many things in the world I’ve been fashioned to fight for and death which is supposed to give my soul a blissful rest also has a prize attached to it?

you dieUsing the most basic example; as a baby, I had to win the race of learning how to walk, then I graduate to nursery school, learning the ropes of ‘how to come first’ in class, this doesn’t stop even in elementary where I still even had to ensure I passed my Common Entrance Examination. And in the secondary journey, there’s still the “come first in class” mentality. Then there is JAMB, and the university too… thereafter job hunting, which metamorphoses into a need to ‘come first in life’, be successful! Let’s not forget amid all these, other areas of life showcase themselves to break and shape me mostly without my will. You mean after all this hassle, I am not guaranteed heaven?

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And then the people who commit suicide too, automatically wins an exclusive lounge in hell? A person who commits suicide wanted out of life’s rat race and hoped that their soul can finally rest but you mean to say hell becomes their comfort? Nah! It doesn’t make sense.

 

My Personal Bias For the Creation Story…

“If God didn’t want evil to exist, why did he create the tree of knowledge of good and evil?” I’ve asked a few of my religiously inclined friends this question severally but no one has been able to provide me with a soothing answer to run with. God knew what evil was, he could have created just a tree with no strings attached but he did this. Is it sage to say he is the origin of every evil existing in the world?

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A friend responded to my question saying that God did not want a dictator relationship with man, thus blessing us with free will to choose good or evil. But I still think it’s absurd. Since he sees the end from the beginning, creating a tree for face value would have saved me from this backbreaking heavenly race. Everything on the earth should have been created good and we’ll still live our lives perfectly, after all, what I don’t know wouldn’t harm me. Better still, God would have just left all of us in heaven, singing praises to him.

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And then the prince of evil, the incredibly fallen angel…the devil…why does he have the fame of the earth? Couldn’t he have been crushed by God at the very foundation of his rebellion? I know a lot of Christians will defend this with scriptures indicating that the devil got nothing on a person so long as they have given their lives to Jesus, but I’ll still maintain that he shouldn’t have been featured on earth. Why was he not crushed? I mean crushed in the sense that man didn’t have to even know that he once existed at all. Then I’m also tempted to ask, how did the devil know too much to rebel against the almighty? how is it that seed of rebellion grew in his heart? Remember he was among the host of angels there before the tree of knowledge was created.

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A Fault in the Book or…

“Okay so, do you believe in the rapture”, my friend Jules asked me the other day at the saloon and my response was “I do not care what the religious books say, my guts don’t believe it, so you mean to tell me a certain time will come and the soldiers for christ will ascend into heaven? Nah!” Jules requested that I read the book of revelation for more insight.

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The truth is I’ve done so in time past, but my guts won’t welcome it. There’s a way that my mind works, it works in a way that I trust over religion. My mind is a conscious yet subconscious selective reader of anything and this includes the bible. It reads every part and selects a truth to abide by and the rest that look like too much, it doesn’t let it take root. For a fact, I do not believe the world will ever come to an end, I believe birth and death will always occur and if there exist judgment, every man shall face theirs as soon as they die. I find it rather humorous that there will be an ascension of the so-called righteous ones and then the beast and his league torments the rest on earth. The whole concept of rapture makes me believe there’s a fault somewhere in the documentation of the bible, perhaps some group found it a worthy opportunity to test their imaginary skills.

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Likewise the questions I asked about the creation story, I feel it strongly in my guts that there’s a misrepresentation somewhere. A whole lot amiss and as a freethinker, I cannot help but poke.

Believe and Death…

I know you have one too many questions on your mind as you’re reading this and I presume the most dominant is “Does this writer believe in God?” Yes I do, I’ve felt him in too many to count instances in my life to not believe him. The most recent is praying to him to heal my dog who suffered a hematoma on her left ears. I couldn’t afford the vet bills and it pained me to see her groan in pain daily. She lost all the butterflies in her stomach, refused meals even her best meals, and grew weaker each day. I felt helpless, all I could do was pray to God and in about a few weeks, the hematoma burst open, thus relieving her of the pain. She’s better now.

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I know some vets reading this will say “ooooh well, that was bound to happen”…Hell yeah! That was God coming through for me. I enjoy my personal relationship with God, I believe in him too much, he lives in my mind and the love we share is not necessarily based on what the religious books say or what the man on the pulpit tells me to believe about him.

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And then I think of death again…there used to be a time that I usually reasoned that it is unfair that I’ll one day have to die especially comparing myself to Methusela who lived 969 years on earth. Most of the unfairness I felt dwelt on the fact that I wouldn’t even live up to half his age on the earth. And one time, a question struck my mind “What will you be doing for that long on the earth? Are you not tired of the unending rat race already?” It dawned on me that death is the ultimate peaceful solution. Can you now see why the concept of hell irks me so bad? If truly there is a hell after, then the best option for me will be nothingness after death. I’ll prefer to be a bag of bones six feet under with no memory of the world or me than to land a place in hell. It’s either heaven or nothingness for me. But again, no one knows what happens when we die. I do not care what the religious book says, we haven’t heard live scores from anyone who died before concerning what it’s like. So until we die, fingers crossed.

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I know when any topic on death or especially religion comes up, people see it as an avenue to argue tooth and nail. No! That’s not my aim for this story, I felt the need to voice these off my mind as it’s been burning for a long time now. On this note, I’ll like to ask you, do our minds correspond in any way? Or contradict as regards all I said? It will be a privilege to also hear your personal high held opinions concerning death, the afterlife, heaven and hell, and other celestial reservations you might have. Like I said, no arguments, just tell me how it really feels in the deepest below of your mind. Leave me a comment, please😶👇.

 

 

 

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PAIN
PAIN
2 years ago

The cradle rocks above an abyss, and common sense tells us that our existence is but a brief crack of light between two eternities of darkness. I do not believe in life after death, because just as there was no “me” before life, there’s no “me” after death, but Death has always been a subject of fascination for me. Eternal rest is Probably one of the the only things that could make me religious. If religion offered this, I’d be the most devout. Broadly speaking, the ideas of what heaven is like often fail to acknowledge that “paradise” is relative… Read more »

Salty
Salty
2 years ago

Hmmmmm this one is deep. I still haven’t gotten used to the idea that I’ll eventually die one day. It scares me. Sometimes I think of animals and how we eat them comfortably, what if they have a soul too. Also if we believe they have no soul, what makes us think it’s not the same for us.

I don’t want to die 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Nice post

Salty
Salty
2 years ago

🤣🤣🤣 you all ate a human goat

Joy
Joy
2 years ago

Insightful. These are questions we were cautioned not to ask about religion and the holybooks. To be honest, some of the things in these holybooks don’t add up. The idea of heaven and hell with all the fairy-tale we were forced to believe as kids really don’t make no sense and the fact that questioning these things is perceived as a sin makes me want to question it more. Nice write up.. MM never disappoints. I’m a returning reader.

Nnamdi
Nnamdi
2 years ago

I feel like you copied everything on my mind. Every single thing. Who are you? Can we meet? Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nnamdi
Nnamdi
2 years ago

😒😒 this is not a definite answer.

Seyi Vandy
Seyi Vandy
2 years ago

I’ve come to the realisation that our lack of time is one of the greatest gifts we have, as it helps us to fully appreciate life. Cause let’s be honest, in this era of quick fix our attention span is not faring well at all😂😂. I think God knew what He did reducing the age limit🤣🤣. Minus the fact that if given too much time and man gets focused, we can do wonders (that can sometimes destroy us as well). But yea, death helps us appreciate life. Just that we have become a little numb to it. This leads to… Read more »

Nnamdi
Nnamdi
2 years ago
Reply to  Seyi Vandy

Makes sense guy

Nkechi
Nkechi
2 years ago

A new perspective……I do believe what the bible says about the after life,it’s best you do and in the end perhaps if a lie you loose nothing but if true and you didn’t believe you could very well loose everything,your mind is greatly logical so I guess that should make some sense.
Plus your mind and your spirit aren’t the same,your mind perceives things as you have seen,heard,observed or experienced but something like death and the afterlife are spiritual discussions,you cannot use the physical data you have collated to Judge that

Onyekachuwkwu
Onyekachuwkwu
2 years ago

Oh, dear religion! What have you done?!!! Death is natural; we all die someday. Nothing that exists will be forever. Even the universe will die and every single particle will vanish into a black hole. Death is the light at the end of everyone’s tunnel. But an anomaly in this science is religion. Death isn’t easy for the intelligent mind (Raised by Wolves). If you’ve had the bad fortune of falling deep into an existential crisis, then you’d understand better. Life truly has no meaning. We live and die, the End. You think of this for long and your head… Read more »

My_totz
My_totz
2 years ago
Reply to  Onyekachuwkwu

The more you look on some topics, the more you see. Religion was man-made and every morality inspired by religion is of man mind. I hate the concept of religion

Bolt😈
Bolt😈
2 years ago

First time commenter here but long time reader… Hi Uju, I share the same sentiment with you. There were days when I would sit down and ponder how God came to be, who created him and all but my folks cautioned me and said it was blasphemy. For religion, this is the only area I have given up on because I know I cannot find an answer.  One thing i know is that there is another realm, I would have doubted this if not for evidence in dreams and also the existence of voodoo (juju). If there is no other… Read more »

dosbambi
dosbambi
2 years ago
Reply to  Bolt😈

Thank you.

This is what keeps many of us sitting on the fence, when it comes to this religion issue. If many of us haven’t seen juju, we won’t believe in God at all.

This mistake of trying to reason God is devil’s trick of stealing our time and happiness.

There are some questions, we should not give attention to, when they come by.

King
King
2 years ago

Hmmmm. Well, there is no doubt you have many questions and you obviously have gotten no to any of them …unfortunately, the universe is bigger than your mind, so it is dangerous to relay on your instincts alone. And for what you didn’t believe in because they do not make sense, well they don’t have to make sense because most of these realities exist in the 4th dimensional world but your mind can only grasp the 3rd dimensional world. I urge you start by from studying differences of the dimensions and what are obtainable in each of them respectively. Don’t… Read more »

Ezeugo 1
Ezeugo 1
2 years ago

If you’ve seen the series “Lucifer”; there’s how they portrayed hell…. Not as a burning fire but a place where you face your biggest fear over and over again. Now the question is, what’s your biggest fear? What if the Bible was metaphorical about the last days… After all the Bible had shown us that God is good at parables and not giving his messages in direct and clear terms.

Oris
Oris
2 years ago

You’ve said it all. Growing up with my grandfather who was a Rosicrucian I had access to his books and other materials that he’ll say you’re not to read them. I read books that at the end of the day made me challenge my supposed faith. Our religions tell us to overlook certain things that would have made much impact in our lives. I asked myself one day why I’m a Christian and if I’m a Christian and also who is a Christian the answers are obvious. In the process of finding myself I asked myself why other people were… Read more »

My_totz
My_totz
2 years ago

I will like to commend your effort in putting up this nice piece. In a lot of ways my totz are in synchronicity with yours save one or two points i am entirely opposed to from my view. Some of your description points your heritage to be Africa or Nigerian on a more precise guess. This life is meaningless to me. From the time of your conception to birth and every other landmark as human is welcomed with pain mostly. Tis even unfortunate to be born in some part of the world that’s an own goal against you. My different… Read more »

Oguntade Olufisayo
Oguntade Olufisayo
2 years ago
Reply to  My_totz

This is very insightful. Raises my spirit to find like-minded people……..in Nigeria for that matter!!! Lol 😁😁 my totz ehn?? 🤔🤔

Last edited 2 years ago by Oguntade Olufisayo
Kolade
Kolade
2 years ago

I have asked these questions severally but no one gave me any answer that could convince me. I sometimes study the Bible but I see it has sentiments too. I have abandoned going to church as my mind could not welcome some teachings due to their ill relativity in nature to my personal reality. I’m trying not to ask these questions again because it often cause agitation in my head. At times I look at the concept about heaven and I would say when we get to the so called heaven, if our brain maintains the same feature it has… Read more »

Pretty Anon
Pretty Anon
2 years ago

Honest truth is, when it comes to all this supernatural and Bible stuff, I’m always very careful about my opinions and thoughts on it. I was born into Christianity and some certain things have been hardwired into my brain, I recently started questioning everything, like the concept of hell and heaven, the eternal suffering, even life after death. I feel like I’ve been questioning almost everything I’ve been raised to know but I haven’t found any satisfactory answers, the more I question, the more lost I seem to be, so I’ve resolved to just believe and have faith in the… Read more »

Sunshine
Sunshine
2 years ago

The concept of heaven and hell negates the good Shepherd parable teaching. I was made to understand that the good Shepherd will not even allow one of his sheep’s to get lost.
The holy book said he left 99 sheep to find one in other to ensure non was lost.
With this kind of love why will you want to create hell to discipline one of your own creation?.
In all I choose to believe their is a big God somewhere for my own sanity.

Oguntade Olufisayo
Oguntade Olufisayo
2 years ago

This life is transient. At least this is something everybody can agree on. Why most people believe in heaven is because of the general deprivation of the good things of life that is prevalent. Because major religions promise eternal life in a place of blissful comfort in return for piety,the ardents will work their asses off to gain that. The truth of the matter is that it is difficult for them to grasp the concept of life eternal. Christianity says the righteous will live in heaven singing and praising the lord forever. Imagine singing and dancing for two days straight.… Read more »

Oguntade Olufisayo
Oguntade Olufisayo
2 years ago

Yes….long time. How has life been treating you? Good,I hope.

Amechi
Amechi
2 years ago

I do believe GOD makes the final decision, what becomes of us when we die, i still find it difficult to believe GOD is going to be comfortable seeing/ sending one of his creation to hell, i mean the bible makes us believe we were created out his image & likeness, even when i fall short of how i should be,i ask for forgiveness & go on trying to be better than i was .

Emma
Emma
2 years ago

“It dawned on me that death is the ultimate peaceful solution.”

You are actually writing my thoughts about Heaven and He’ll, rapture etc.

I am a Christian but my ‘guts’ always disagree with the doctrine of Heaven and Hell.

Everything you have written is the current state of my belief system!

Thank.

Adekola
Adekola
2 years ago

I lost my mum 15 years ago and believe me i haven’t gotten over it, it’s funny right? Yes but i still think so much if I’m really going to see her again ‘when we go to heaven’ what if I don’t go to heaven, Does that means I won’t see her? The thought that i will also die someday is even crazy, I think about it everyday. You really put down my many thoughts in this writing and I must say I’m confused about this life thing.

Gladys
Gladys
2 years ago

I’ve always thought about these things too. I love your write up, Kudos.
Please be my friend

Nebo
Nebo
2 years ago

After reading your write up and some comments and your follow up replies, I asked myself “is it worthwhile to contribute to this or should I keep it moving?” I could have said much, but let me say a little. First, neither you nor any of the commentors before me know anything about what the Bible says about death. When you talk about hell, if the hell you meant is where God punishes sinners, I want to tell you the writers of the Bible know of no such place. When the Bible uses the word hell, (in the king James… Read more »

Nebo
Nebo
2 years ago

I didn’t mean we are the only one that fears death WHEN confronted by it. As a mechanism for survival, other animals also fear death and act to save themselves from immediate danger. What I said is that here on earth, we are the only ones that WORRY about our own death. It’s a known fact. Did you follow the link I shared about what the Bible really say about death and Hellfire? (Remember I am not trying to convince you that what the Bible said about death is the truth. But atleast before we try to disprove it, we… Read more »

Nebo
Nebo
2 years ago

Mr Muttering Minds. Good morning from Anambra State.

I hope you have had time to go through that link I provided earlier.

I decided to bring another link that considers the COMPLETE Bible debate on hell/hellfire.

Remember my aim is not to say that the Bible is true, but to atleast help you and your readers know what the Bible really teaches about Hell, so that when they argue against it, they are not arguing against a strawman.

Thank you. See the link below

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101989234

Olakunle
Olakunle
2 years ago

This is such an unbiased , lovely and complex article, Funny thing about religion is we all going to hell in another man religion, that seem crazy to me, make it make sense as a christian I’m probably going to hell in the Islamic religion, that doesnt make a single sense to me, this further Deepen the mystery of creation , we never asked to be on earth but somehow we find ourselves here , all I know is since we know the difference between good and evil , I guess that says it all, I’ll just stick to doing… Read more »

Olakunle
Olakunle
2 years ago

Man , truly no precise formula to life
Once again nice article, thanks for this 🤝

dosbambi
dosbambi
2 years ago

So, I’ve kind of been following the gist on telegram, and I get the nudge to contribute, but for some reasons, I kept postponing and forgetting. But, thank God…I’m here now. These thoughts of yours, are common thoughts for everyone, as far as I know. We’ve all shared these thoughts as some point in our lives. Some folks still do though. First, permit me to correct the notion that, having these thoughts are “anti Christian or anti Bible. Like, many other thing in the Christian faith, most of our church leaders have not done well in handling the situation. There’s… Read more »

dosbambi
dosbambi
2 years ago

There is nothing like individual truth, that’s something I won’t agree with…especially on spiritual matters. There can only be one truth! That we all have different opinions on things don’t mean, we are all right! Just because we don’t want unnecessary wahala coming from different opinions don’t mean, we agree that, truth is whatever you call it. Going with that notion, lie won’t exist anymore, and devil would have win it all. But no! There’s truth, and there are lies! Yes, man is spirit, body and soul. I wouldn’t be surprised, if we attend the same church. We become spiritual… Read more »

dosbambi
dosbambi
2 years ago

Sure, never at anytime to I thought of forcing my belief on anyone. I’m not thought that way at all.

As much as I wish, you could see things, as the Bible describes, never for once do I think I of forcing my beliefs on you.

In the little years, I’ve lived on earth..
I’ve seen and learnt the evil/consequence of forcing one’s beliefs on others.

What I’m taught to do, is to pray…

Remain blessed pal.

Dami
Dami
2 years ago

The devil was an angel who rebelled against God and was thrown to hell,i read somewhere that angels are made from fire maybe that’s a reason why he was condemned there but we humans were made from dust,why do we have to go to the same place with the devil. I’ve come to conclusion that God is the Ultimate and Sovereign being whose power’s cannot be challenged. Believe in God there’s just one God do things right we aren’t perfect and everything will be straight.

Temi
Temi
2 years ago

I really can’t believe how much calmness my brain received after reading your article and some of the comments. I’d be lying if i said i ever met anyone like minded. Everyone around me is so obsessed with these religious fanatics that i feel alien in their midst. I started having my doubts about all these at 15… To me, i felt God made me stop believing most of my religious teachings so i could reshape my life better. I believe God exists, I know he exists… I know He is good. But what i don’t understand is why he… Read more »

General-Hammad
General-Hammad
2 years ago

I ain’t got much to say my dear, all I will encourage you to do is to try to research on other religions. For instance, try knowing the Qur’an and its contents, I promise you, you will know a lot. The bible, because of the writing and diluting of words in it has eliminated some vital information as contained in the old testament. The old testament contains some information in the Qur’an, whilst the Qur’an contains all the information in the old testament and even more. This is so because, the Qur’an was the last book God revealed to the… Read more »

snaitx
snaitx
1 year ago

The tree of the knowledge of good and evil and the tree of life was symbolic of choice and not actual trees. There is no fruit you eat that gives eternal life and there is also no fruit you eat that Grant’s knowledge of good and evil. Adam’s disobedience to Gods word in Genesis was Adam choosing not to believe God.. Unbelief in Gods word (DISOBEDIENCE) That’s why Jesus use words like I am the bread of life.. Its not Literal Bread. Figure of speech… Same way the The trees in the garden weren’t actually trees but symbolic of choice placed… Read more »

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